communication from GitHub CEO and youtube-dl project maintainers on IRC since october 24th 2020 relating to project future timestamps converted to UTC "Nat Friedman" replaces the username of Nat Friedman "Maintainer" replaces the username of Sergey M. ========== Topic for #youtube-dl is: youtube-dl's GitHub repository is currently disabled due to DMCA takedown notice by RIAA (see https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2020/10/2020-10-23-RIAA.md) ========== Oct 25 22:37:43 Hi folks, I'm the CEO of GitHub. We'd love to help get the youtube-dl repo restored as quickly as possible, so if any maintainers who are here would like to msg me, please go ahead. Oct 25 22:40:01 Thanks, I'll msg them. Oct 25 22:40:54 I haven't used IRC in a long time :-). Oct 25 22:41:17 Yes, I can prove it. Here: https://twitter.com/natfriedman/status/1320495651835105281?s=20 Oct 25 22:41:26 (After you've seen that, I'll delete it.) Oct 25 22:41:51 Ok, deleted. Oct 25 22:42:12 No issue, sorry the repo is suspended. I want to get it back up as quick as possible. Will msg Maintainer now. Oct 25 22:46:20 We've been communicating with a repo owner to get the repo unsuspended, but they haven't answered us in a while, so I came here to try to find someone else. Oct 25 22:50:20 Nat Friedman: what do you believe it would take to get the repo unsuspended? the removal of the links in question? the JSInterpreter? or the entire youtube extractor? Oct 25 22:51:50 Just the rolling cipher circumvention code and the examples of how to get copyrighted material Oct 25 22:54:14 We really just need a maintainer to reply to our emails so we can take care of this :-). If you know one, encourage them to get in touch. I'm nat@github.com. ========== Oct 27 06:37:42 Maintainer: Do you have any strong feelings on adding a bot in this channel as per ^ Oct 27 08:05:25 Anon: please no bots here, I'll make one if needed Oct 27 08:05:47 Maintainer: so what's happening with ytdl as of right now? Oct 27 08:06:20 waiting for today's meeting with EFF, not much apart from that yet Oct 27 08:19:26 Maintainer: I wonder what the RIAA will do since ytdl's source code is everywhere (I also host a tor gitlab instance for it) Oct 27 08:41:10 Anon: huh, no idea, I think they don't care much Oct 27 08:38:03 Maintainer: Did Nat Friedman contact you? Oct 27 08:41:14 Anon: yes Oct 27 08:50:34 I did not contact him but according to chat here he offered nothing new Oct 27 08:50:59 they require complete removal of so called YouTube's rolling cipher implementation Oct 27 08:51:11 They as in? Oct 27 08:51:20 meaning complete removal of ciphered video support in youtube-dl Oct 27 08:51:30 No, hey as in RIAA? Oct 27 08:51:32 *they Oct 27 08:52:29 not in RIAA Oct 27 08:53:01 GitHub requires in order to reinstate the repo Oct 27 08:53:40 under this conditions I could reinstate it in Saturday/Sunday already but this is an unsatisfactory outcome Oct 27 08:58:43 I can't guarantee whether out not we will bend over them considering the situation with @phihag but we'll see soon what we can do in order to keep the max we have and mitigate potential legal issues at the same time Oct 27 08:58:44 also, while you are here, idk if you are aware or not but neither the sig nor the hash checks out on the source targz download Oct 27 09:00:50 Anon: I'm aware of that and already sent a message couple days ago to our temporary hoster to replace the file Oct 27 09:10:04 Maintainer: did EFF reach out to you, or did you contact them directly? Oct 27 12:11:12 Anon: we did Oct 27 11:28:59 Maintainer: why not just reinstate the repo in any way, and just work on youtube-dlc? Oct 27 12:11:54 Anon: in reinstate the repo in any way all other forks will be in "any way" Oct 27 12:13:02 there is no point working on 3rdparty forks that are in the same "any way" Oct 27 12:11:57 Maintainer: the meeting took place? Or is it later today? Oct 27 12:13:12 Anon: later today Oct 27 12:23:48 >There are not and there never will be Pull Requests, Merge Requests or Email on GAnarchy. Oct 27 12:24:00 this makes it almost useless Oct 27 18:01:07 Maintainer and other people who own a fork: i have gotten my fork repo reinstated by github support as i submitted a patch to invalidate the DMCA which they have approved Oct 27 18:03:00 Anon: I'm aware but removing roller cipher is not very good outcome Oct 27 18:03:39 it is the only solution if you wish to have youtube-dl completely restored on github Oct 27 18:03:46 unless you want to fight a legal battle Oct 27 18:03:48 we'll see Oct 27 18:04:23 Maintainer: the meeting took place? Oct 27 18:04:59 Anon: sorry, can't disclose anything